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May 22nd, 2003 · 14 Comments

Hi everyone, we live downunder and have had our pool for 4months now.
We are in the middle of winter here (we are in southern Aust)and
wondering what would be the best way of heating our pool. It is an
11metres by 4.5m(34′x 14′)pool with a Spa at one end. depth is 3′ at
shallow end and 6ft at other end.
Thanks “can’t wait for summer”

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14 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Neva Marjory // May 23, 2003 at 12:11 am

    I have a pool of similar size and use a 200,000BTU natural gas heater
    to bring it up to temp when the air temp dips. It does get a little
    costly to run, but makes it better swimming.
    Another solution is to use a solar heater for the pool. They can
    produce 2100 to 5400 BTU per square meter in full sunshine. A good
    solution if you get a lot of sunshine.
    The other problem is getting out of a nice warm pool when to air is
    cool! Some sort of shelter goes a long way.
    Good luck and enjoy the pool!
    — In homeswimmingpoolowners@y…, “lizianvance” <vanfamily@b…

  • 2 Neva Marjory // Oct 24, 2003 at 4:18 am

    My wife and I just purchases a home with an in-ground pool. The water
    is clear and the kids are loving it. The pool is 18 X 40 rectangular
    in shape, has a sand filtiration system on it and a automatic
    chlorinator {I guess thats what you call it}. It also has a little
    Polaris vacum thing that runs itself around the pool to clean it.
    More on that little bugger below.
    Questions:
    1. I had the water tested and the pool supply place wants me to add
    30 POUNDS of cholorine and 20 POUNDS of ash. This seems excesive to
    me, since the pool appears to be fine. Is this unreasonable?
    2. How does the automtic cholorinator work in conjunction with
    shocking? Do I just keep filling it with cholorine tablets as it uses
    them?
    3. The little pool vacum likes to tie itself up with it’s own hose,
    which seems like abnormal behavior to me. Is it or do they do that?

    thanks in advance for any help
    Matt

  • 3 janis_40 // Oct 25, 2003 at 5:48 am

    30 pounds of chlorine? Excessive no, outrageous yes! The automatic
    chlorinator do you put tablets in it or does it generate chlorine itself? It
    may be a chlorine generator. Meaning that it generates chlorine from the
    salt (Sodiumcloride) in the water of your pool. Maybe they said add 30
    pounds of salt not chlorine. I need some manufacturers name or model off the
    equipment because the salt requirements are different for each. The little
    polaris thing, because it is an inground pool I am betting it is a Polaris
    380? Does it have a hose that looks about the size of a garden hose? Is
    there another pump near your pool filtration pump? If that is what you have
    there are several reasons why it is making knots in the hose. First in the
    hose there are several swivels they look like joints in the hose. They
    should rotate smoothly without binding and they should not leak alot. Next
    the wheels on the double wheel side are driven by belts when one or both
    belts go then the unit turns to oneside all the time instead of a random
    pattern. If you have a 380 then write back. You also may have a 360 or 340

    Polaris.

  • 4 Neva Marjory // Oct 27, 2003 at 10:12 am

    First of all, congratulations on your new purchase! In the years to
    come you will learn to love and appreciate your swimming pool. It
    will take a little getting used to.
    Now, as far as adding 30 lbs of chlorine, what was their reasoning?
    If your water looks great, I can see no reason for this. 20 lbs
    of “soda ash” seems right, however, I would like to know the results
    of your water analysis. Most of the time, at least around here, your
    Total Alkalinity falls down quite a bit from rain water. In order to
    keep all of your levels where they need to be, you need to adjust
    your T/A BEFORE you adjust your pH. T/A is the buffer for the pH and
    helps to keep it in range. It’s not uncommon for my customers to
    have to add anywhere from 4 lbs to 36 lbs of T/A increaser.

  • 5 Neva Marjory // Oct 31, 2003 at 11:34 am

    First thanks for the reply, below is the water analysis results:
    Free Available Chlorine - 0
    Total Available Chlorine - 0
    Water pH - 6.0 (200)
    Total Alkalinity - 20
    Calcium Hardness - 270
    What I was told to to
    1.) Broadcast 30 pounds of ALKALINITY UP with the pump running, wait
    6 hours.
    2.) Dissolve 20 pounds of SODA ASH in water and add around the pool
    with the pump running. Wait 4 hours
    3.) Add 4 pounds of POWER POWDER PLUS with the pump running. Wait 12
    hours.
    that was it.
    thanks again Matt Williams

  • 6 Neva Marjory // Nov 1, 2003 at 7:03 am

    thanks for the reply. The chlorinator has tablets in it. They are
    about the size of a hockey puck. It is a Polaris 380 and has a hose
    like you describe, all the swivels seem to be in working order. The
    hose appears to have a propulson jet of some kind on it and every
    once in a while when it is running that thing breaks the surface of
    the water and spins the hose in a circle like mad. Thats about it
    other then what I wrote in my post before this one.
    thanks again
    Matt Williams

  • 7 janis_40 // Nov 2, 2003 at 8:33 am

    The jet is a backup valve. It should time thru a cycle where the valve is
    off and the cleaner is running and then the valve will open and the cleaner
    should stop and let the jet of water pull it backwards. The best way to test
    your Polaris is to take it out of the pool and leave it hooked up. Lay the
    hose on the deck next to the pool and put the unit on several 2X4’s so the
    wheels spin freely. Then turn on the booster pump with the pool pump running
    as well. All three wheels should spin there should be a jet on the rear of
    the unit pointed to the 11:00 position and the sweep tail should have water
    squirting out of it as well. The backup valve should cycle at regular
    intervals and the swivels should not leak very much.

  • 8 janis_40 // Nov 3, 2003 at 4:01 am

    Hey Matt if I recall you have an inground vinyl lined pool and Leslies is
    telling you to add Power Powder Plus. Yes your pH and TA were very low.

  • 9 Neva Marjory // Nov 14, 2003 at 6:38 am

    What they told you to do does not sounds unreasonable at all. When
    your T/A is that low, your water is EXTREMELY acidic. If you have a
    vinyl liner pool, the water will actually start to attack the liner,
    pulling the adhesive out of it that holds it all together, and can
    form wrinkles in the liner itself. If you have a heater, it will eat
    through a heat exchanger very quickly. That is one of the most
    important things to keep balanced in a swimming pool. MOST of the
    time, the T/A increaser will bring your pH up along with it. So I
    would have the water rechecked before adding the pH increaser “soda
    ash”. Adding 4 lbs of chlorine does not seem unreasonable either,
    considering the fact that you have a 0 chlorine reading. Best of
    luck.

  • 10 Neva Marjory // Apr 15, 2005 at 6:42 pm

    Just bought a house with a pool and attached spa. I have a Hayward
    400 series heater. The previous owner told me (about 6 weeks before
    we moved into the house) how to operate the equipment, but he did not
    have any manuals. The spa does not heat past 85 degrees, because I
    think I am trying to heat both the spa and the pool. I have the spa
    setting selected on the heater. Which valves do I open and close to
    heat only the spa? The previous owner had mentioned that I could do
    this and the spa would heat up in 15 minutes or so…
    I have gone to hawyardnet.com to see if there is a users guide…all
    i can find is a technical manual on the parts etc..nothing on the day
    to day care etc. Can anyone help?

  • 11 Neva Marjory // Jul 5, 2005 at 2:39 am

    My husband and I moved into a home with an inground pool. The
    previous owner had let it go and it was in such bad shape that we
    drained and cleaned and cleaned and cleaned. (The use of we being
    rather generous since my husband did most of the hard work.)
    Filter cartridges and the manifold had to be replaced. We also
    replaced the filter tank o-ring as well as most (or all?) of the
    other smaller o-rings. We’ve managed to get the water chemistry
    balanced with the help of a local pool store.
    Problem now is that when we use the relief valve on top of the tank
    it seems to have a lot of air coming out. We have been told that we
    should “bleed” off the air this way about once a week. Today we had
    that relief valve open for over 10 minutes and were still getting air
    out of it. Any ideas here?
    TIA,
    Kathy

  • 12 Neva Marjory // Jul 7, 2005 at 1:05 pm

    This sounds like the common problem of a leak on a suction line, the
    pipework between the pool and the pump, used to draw water from the
    pool. Air drawn in is either pushed through the filter and emerges as
    a stream of bubbles at the return inlets, or, as in this case,
    collects at the top of the filter tank, under compression.
    One problem this causes is that when the pump stops the compressed
    air expands and blasts (dirty) water and the contents of any filter
    baskets back into the pool…
    It might also be being caused by air being drawn into the skimmer
    point if the water level is a little low.
    You’ll need to find the leak and seal it.
    If you can shut off main and skimmer inlets separately you might be
    able to identify which is providing the air to the pump.
    Check joints too, for dried out or cracked glue.
    Steve.

  • 13 Neva Marjory // Nov 6, 2006 at 9:39 am

    We just bought a house with a pool. There is a little water on the
    bottom that appears to have red algea in it. I have no idea about
    pool care and was wondering if someone could advice me as to how to
    clean the pool and get it ready for the big holiday.
    Thanks bunches,
    Melinda

  • 14 Alice Houston // Nov 7, 2006 at 5:29 am

    Friends,
    I finally got my new pool done. As usual, the pool guy gave some treatment
    on the water. It was finally crystal clear after a few days.
    However, that was before the chlorine generator turned on (we use salt to
    generate chlorine). It’s been 7 days since we turned on our chlorine
    generator, the pool water is still cloudy.
    Is this normal? Did I miss anything? What should I do? What I know the
    pool guy only scrubs and vacuum and dump some chlorine tablet into the pool.
    Any comments and inputs would be appreciated.
    Thx & rgds,
    Herman

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